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Stamp: Kids are human by Riza-Izumi Stamp: Kids are human by Riza-Izumi
Most pro-choicers are on the woman's side, pretty much ALL pro-lifers are on the fetus's side or the child's side, so here's a pro-choice stamp on the child's side.

Don't ya just love how, when you're in the womb, you're a wonderful innocent infant, but once you're out, all of a sudden, you're a worthless piece of shit >_0

A lot of kids would have been better off being aborted (I know many), and I think it's selfish to give birth to a mentally deficient child KNOWING what he / she will be like and go through. If I was trying to have a child, got pregnant, and the child had problems (i.e. mental retardation, down syndrome ect). I WOULD about it, not for my sake, but for the child's sake. What kind of a life is that?! Seriously.

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Beastboss Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Now my biggest problem with this is two things, A. If fetus's are not "human" then what are they? A clump of cells you might say, well then I guess you haven't heard of cell theory. As cells are the basics of all life. Science has proven this time and time again in fact it's the few times Science and Religion can in fact agree universally. However if they aren't a clump of cells, then what are they? Please tell me, if it's not a child or a clump of cells then what is it? 

This also disturbing "A lot of kids would have been better off being aborted (I know many), and I think it's selfish to give birth to a mentally deficient child KNOWING what he / she will be like and go through. If I was trying to have a child, got pregnant, and the child had problems (i.e. mental retardation, down syndrome ect). I WOULD about it, not for my sake, but for the child's sake. What kind of a life is that?! Seriously."
What kind of sick individual are you, I'm sorry I rarely use this term to describe people but this is down right Nazi and I'm sure you know how they handled the unfit for society. It doesn't matter how you justify it because the actions are unjustifiable I've also met some people like that, and many are better and happier people than I can ever become
What gave you the right to kill an innocent human beings without any faults or crimes

And one last thing, the Pro-Life supporters such as  myself have always been seen as "devils who want to control women's bodies" 
We on the right(and few on the left) who believe that this practice is wrong have no desire to control any part of the actual woman, we don't care about her skin, her heart, her brain or any part of the woman. We just want to protect the being that is not the woman ie the unborn child oh I'm sorry "fetus" because it totally isn't a human right?

The pro-choice movement is ultimately the opposite of what you people claim because you are denying a life who had no choice in the matter just like a murder does, who takes away the right of the individual and denies them choice. I'd also recommend speaking with an abortion survivor, you might find it interesting

There is also no excuse for not using protection in this day in age when this crap is cheaper than candy

Oh and one last thing, I hope you get pregnant and if you have children great God bless them but if or when you get pregnant take a look at what your killing and ask yourself is this the right thing because many women who make that "choice"(or rather dictate) are more likely to take another life, their own
So please challenge me on this and I would highly recommend you avoid the classic sexist argument that is "I'm a man I have no say"

Also a word of advice don't skim over this before you reply, you might learn something
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Riza-Izumi Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2014
A fetus is only human in the sens it has human DNA, but it's not a human like an actual baby. How am I sick, when I don't want to see humans suffering?! And it's not a human being, and tell me this, what gave YOU the right to own another person's body?! Her body her choice.

That's because YOU are devils who what to control women! No you want to control her uterus and her body! How dare you compare abortion to murder and the holocaust you worthless cunt! You're the sick one here. Actually birth control can be expensive and beings the pro-life cunts are against birth control being covered by medical it's even harder to get on certain birth controls. 

And I just love how men like you get pissed off when women say men need to fuck off :lol: Sorry pal, you're not the one pregnant you shouldn't have a final or legal say in abortion. 
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Beastboss Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
I have no right to own a person and that's not what I proposed, I am stating that the life of another human being even unborn deserves the same right to life as a woman, what gave you the right I say to determine the death of an innocent human being's life  

A fetus is still human it doesn't grow into a cow or a dog it grows into a human it maybe less developed but it's still human oh but have you seen a fetus how is that not human it's not just dna within 6 weeks it has a brain and it begins development of it's lungs, don't play with nouns madame because then you are willfully lying

What I often hear is that even pro-choice advocates don't believe you should kill your child at 6 months, tell what major developments occur that make it different than 5 months seriously

I didn't compare abortion to the holocaust, what I said was that your line of thinking that because you claim you don't want to see it suffer(read my previous statement) is still very similar to nazi line of thought when it came to the mentally and physically handicapped, different reasoning but same out come you can't justify that

I'd call you something but there isn't an insult for males that is scene as too far like 'cunt' for woman, so I'll just refer to you as a hallow being

Like I said we don't want to own the woman because we don't care about owning any particular part of her just the being that isn't the woman, you know the child within her
So you admit it's a sexist argument, ok good just wanted to clear that up now I have moral justification to be a misogynist(sarcasm, mostly)
Also tell me what's the leftist 'moral' justification for increasing female suicide
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AClockworkKitten Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Pro-lifers against birth control confuse me.  Why not try to reduce unwanted pregnancy instead of try to make abortion illegal?  Then everyone will be happy.
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Beastboss Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
My bad not "contraception", protection my mistake 
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FormAndShadows Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
"I think it's selfish to give birth to a mentally deficient child KNOWING what he / she will be like and go through." So people who have mental disabilities aren't worth keeping alive? Why don't we just kill them then? Because life does have value. You need to be careful saying things like that. I know people with Down Syndrome who are living their lives, and are happy for it. I would never take that away from them because I believed their life wasn't worth living.
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Marshmallow-Bunnii Featured By Owner Edited Nov 11, 2014   Writer
Life does have value. But if the kid is going to be absolutely miserable, unable to do certain things and/or being ridiculed by their peers, it would be terrible to make them go through that.
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FormAndShadows Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
So my question still stands. If your conclusion is true, if giving birth to a mentally handicapped person was selfish and wrong because you believe their life isn't worth living, then why don't we just kill people who are mentally deficient? I mean, we know better than they do whether or not their life is worth living, right?
I think its an utterly cruel argument. People born with mental disorders,  especially in this day and age, are definitely able to live fulfilling lives which, contrary to your argument, are worth living. Life is precious.
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Marshmallow-Bunnii Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2014   Writer
No. No. No, no, no, no, no. You obviously didn't read it. If the child is going to be absolutely miserable, unable to do most tasks and being ridiculed, then it would be horrible to make them live through that. But if the mother wants to be by her child's side and help them through everything, or just let them experience life, that is her choice. Not mine, hers.
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FormAndShadows Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
But that mother also has the right to say that a life isn't worth the trouble? That its just too much work to be by her child's side? That she would be better off without her child in her life? That is what seems unutterably selfish to me. I think that that person, that child, has a right to life. A right no one, not even their own mother, has the right to take away from them.
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