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Stamp: Kids are human by Riza-Izumi Stamp: Kids are human by Riza-Izumi
Most pro-choicers are on the woman's side, pretty much ALL pro-lifers are on the fetus's side or the child's side, so here's a pro-choice stamp on the child's side.

Don't ya just love how, when you're in the womb, you're a wonderful innocent infant, but once you're out, all of a sudden, you're a worthless piece of shit >_0

A lot of kids would have been better off being aborted (I know many), and I think it's selfish to give birth to a mentally deficient child KNOWING what he / she will be like and go through. If I was trying to have a child, got pregnant, and the child had problems (i.e. mental retardation, down syndrome ect). I WOULD about it, not for my sake, but for the child's sake. What kind of a life is that?! Seriously.

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:icontheemptychest:
Well, technically fetuses are "human" -- as in, they have human DNA. The question is whether or not they're a person, in which case I would say no. 
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Beastboss Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Now my biggest problem with this is two things, A. If fetus's are not "human" then what are they? A clump of cells you might say, well then I guess you haven't heard of cell theory. As cells are the basics of all life. Science has proven this time and time again in fact it's the few times Science and Religion can in fact agree universally. However if they aren't a clump of cells, then what are they? Please tell me, if it's not a child or a clump of cells then what is it? 

This also disturbing "A lot of kids would have been better off being aborted (I know many), and I think it's selfish to give birth to a mentally deficient child KNOWING what he / she will be like and go through. If I was trying to have a child, got pregnant, and the child had problems (i.e. mental retardation, down syndrome ect). I WOULD about it, not for my sake, but for the child's sake. What kind of a life is that?! Seriously."
What kind of sick individual are you, I'm sorry I rarely use this term to describe people but this is down right Nazi and I'm sure you know how they handled the unfit for society. It doesn't matter how you justify it because the actions are unjustifiable I've also met some people like that, and many are better and happier people than I can ever become
What gave you the right to kill an innocent human beings without any faults or crimes

And one last thing, the Pro-Life supporters such as  myself have always been seen as "devils who want to control women's bodies" 
We on the right(and few on the left) who believe that this practice is wrong have no desire to control any part of the actual woman, we don't care about her skin, her heart, her brain or any part of the woman. We just want to protect the being that is not the woman ie the unborn child oh I'm sorry "fetus" because it totally isn't a human right?

The pro-choice movement is ultimately the opposite of what you people claim because you are denying a life who had no choice in the matter just like a murder does, who takes away the right of the individual and denies them choice. I'd also recommend speaking with an abortion survivor, you might find it interesting

There is also no excuse for not using protection in this day in age when this crap is cheaper than candy

Oh and one last thing, I hope you get pregnant and if you have children great God bless them but if or when you get pregnant take a look at what your killing and ask yourself is this the right thing because many women who make that "choice"(or rather dictate) are more likely to take another life, their own
So please challenge me on this and I would highly recommend you avoid the classic sexist argument that is "I'm a man I have no say"

Also a word of advice don't skim over this before you reply, you might learn something
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Riza-Izumi Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2014
A fetus is only human in the sens it has human DNA, but it's not a human like an actual baby. How am I sick, when I don't want to see humans suffering?! And it's not a human being, and tell me this, what gave YOU the right to own another person's body?! Her body her choice.

That's because YOU are devils who what to control women! No you want to control her uterus and her body! How dare you compare abortion to murder and the holocaust you worthless cunt! You're the sick one here. Actually birth control can be expensive and beings the pro-life cunts are against birth control being covered by medical it's even harder to get on certain birth controls. 

And I just love how men like you get pissed off when women say men need to fuck off :lol: Sorry pal, you're not the one pregnant you shouldn't have a final or legal say in abortion. 
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Beastboss Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
I have no right to own a person and that's not what I proposed, I am stating that the life of another human being even unborn deserves the same right to life as a woman, what gave you the right I say to determine the death of an innocent human being's life  

A fetus is still human it doesn't grow into a cow or a dog it grows into a human it maybe less developed but it's still human oh but have you seen a fetus how is that not human it's not just dna within 6 weeks it has a brain and it begins development of it's lungs, don't play with nouns madame because then you are willfully lying

What I often hear is that even pro-choice advocates don't believe you should kill your child at 6 months, tell what major developments occur that make it different than 5 months seriously

I didn't compare abortion to the holocaust, what I said was that your line of thinking that because you claim you don't want to see it suffer(read my previous statement) is still very similar to nazi line of thought when it came to the mentally and physically handicapped, different reasoning but same out come you can't justify that

I'd call you something but there isn't an insult for males that is scene as too far like 'cunt' for woman, so I'll just refer to you as a hallow being

Like I said we don't want to own the woman because we don't care about owning any particular part of her just the being that isn't the woman, you know the child within her
So you admit it's a sexist argument, ok good just wanted to clear that up now I have moral justification to be a misogynist(sarcasm, mostly)
Also tell me what's the leftist 'moral' justification for increasing female suicide
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AClockworkKitten Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Pro-lifers against birth control confuse me.  Why not try to reduce unwanted pregnancy instead of try to make abortion illegal?  Then everyone will be happy.
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Beastboss Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
My bad not "contraception", protection my mistake 
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FormAndShadows Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
"I think it's selfish to give birth to a mentally deficient child KNOWING what he / she will be like and go through." So people who have mental disabilities aren't worth keeping alive? Why don't we just kill them then? Because life does have value. You need to be careful saying things like that. I know people with Down Syndrome who are living their lives, and are happy for it. I would never take that away from them because I believed their life wasn't worth living.
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Marshmallow-Bunnii Featured By Owner Edited Nov 11, 2014   Writer
Life does have value. But if the kid is going to be absolutely miserable, unable to do certain things and/or being ridiculed by their peers, it would be terrible to make them go through that.
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FormAndShadows Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
So my question still stands. If your conclusion is true, if giving birth to a mentally handicapped person was selfish and wrong because you believe their life isn't worth living, then why don't we just kill people who are mentally deficient? I mean, we know better than they do whether or not their life is worth living, right?
I think its an utterly cruel argument. People born with mental disorders,  especially in this day and age, are definitely able to live fulfilling lives which, contrary to your argument, are worth living. Life is precious.
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Marshmallow-Bunnii Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2014   Writer
No. No. No, no, no, no, no. You obviously didn't read it. If the child is going to be absolutely miserable, unable to do most tasks and being ridiculed, then it would be horrible to make them live through that. But if the mother wants to be by her child's side and help them through everything, or just let them experience life, that is her choice. Not mine, hers.
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FormAndShadows Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
But that mother also has the right to say that a life isn't worth the trouble? That its just too much work to be by her child's side? That she would be better off without her child in her life? That is what seems unutterably selfish to me. I think that that person, that child, has a right to life. A right no one, not even their own mother, has the right to take away from them.
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Marshmallow-Bunnii Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2014   Writer
I completely respect your opinion.

It's not about being worth it, it's about how healthy the child will be. If they can't do most things, then it would be horrible to make them go through life.
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motherofsephy Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I no longer even refer to those people as "pro-life" but instead as "anti-choice". Pro-choice is not the opposite of life. I am pro-choice but I'm not going around taking anyone's life, so the only logical opposite of pro-choice is anti-choice.

There's a church in my town that acts like a little cult. I'd love to get into a debate with them about this topic. Someone in my life had an abortion because the child would have been born physically and mentally handicapped. Most likely my father would have left my mother (the divorce rate for parents of 'special' children is very high (and my father DID leave after I was diagnosed with aspergers)), I (who was very young at the time) would have needed to stay home with my mother to take care of the baby instead of having a social life, and we probably would have had to get a lot of therapy to cope. And guess who would never in a million years help us? That local cultish church. I don't know about other churches, but that fetus was better off aborted because that church would run us out of town if we ever told them, or would have called the baby the spawn of Satan because it would be so handicapped.

People need to stop running their mouths when it's not their place, realize that my set of morals is not the same as theirs, and that having a child/having an abortion is a huge deal and there is a lot of thought going into either decision, and actions speak louder than words. All right, anti-choicers, you pay for diapers, therapy, daycare, go to school meetings, bring that unwanted baby to the doctor, make sure it's loved, go to its graduation, help it buy a car, get it a job, bail it out of jail when it gets caught doing drugs, et cetera, I could go on. DOI!

TL;DR This stamp is excellent, and I think your opinion is spot-on.
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RicanAce19 Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2014  Student Filmographer
Yes! I can't agree anymore!
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nuggetmaster1000 Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2014
Good God, what the fuck is the world coming to?!? YOU WOULDN'T BE SAYING THIS BULLSHIT IF YOU WEREN'T TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF LIFE!
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Riza-Izumi Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2014
Oh good God, here we go with this bullshit again :roll: A fetus, isn't a life, not like a human anyways. And how can YOU pro-liars says you understand the value of life, when your value is making a kid into a punishment. 
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nuggetmaster1000 Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2014
Making a kid into a punishment? Wtf does that mean, and how did I say that?
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LupusCor010 Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Actually, if you look at it purely as a scientist. A fetus is a human being because its genetics and chromosome count scientifically make it human. Therefore, this stamp is wrong. It's just that a fetus doesn't quite look how we normally think of how a human looks. 
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MorenatsuNi Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
You're some sick fuckers...  Just saying.
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DeltaHD Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2014
NEIN! NEIN! NEIN! NEIN! NEIN! NEIN! FICK DICH SCHEISSE KOPF! Föten Menschen, die Sie entmenschlichen NAZI!
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TheoneJay Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2014
Amen! I love this stamp!
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:iconnuggetmaster1000:
nuggetmaster1000 Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2014
Fuck you.
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:icontheonejay:
TheoneJay Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2014
Take me out for dinner first, I don't screw on first dates.
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nuggetmaster1000 Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2014
I don't appreciate people joking when I'm dead serious about my morals, and it sickens me that you would justify what is essentially murder for any reason. I seriously wish you all would actually think about the implications of abortion, and what it truly means to snatch away the chance for a person to have a life. But you won't, since you're so firm in the belief of freedom of choice that you've forgotten what is more important; morality. It's immoral to kill, so why should everyone have the freedom to kill?
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TheoneJay Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2014
And by telling me this, you feel the need to say 'fuck you'? Wow. Let me get an onion so I can cry. Everyone deserves a CHOICE to abort or let the fetus live. Bye bye.
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nuggetmaster1000 Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2014
I disagree. No one should be allowed to kill, unless in self defense. 
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TheoneJay Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2014
Well, that's your opinion. Just remember fetuses are not babies.
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Little-rolling-bean Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Typical. It is all "SAVE DEH FETUS" then once it is born, they do not care. They throw it in the adoption center for it to maybe never be loved and the child be sad to rest of its life. But who cares about the sad, unwanted and abused children? There are FETUSES getting hurt!
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HumanistRarity Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2013
I like children (sometimes), and I'm pro-choice. I care about the children. It makes me sad that some pro-lifers don't care about the unwanted children. Adopted children needs love too. :c
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Mistwolf4 Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2013  Student Artist
I think fetuses are human, I just don't think they can feel pain at that stage.
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nightmare1234567890 Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2013   Digital Artist
Fetuses are humans. They're just not in human hood. Human/Homospaien  is described what creature it is, not what stages it made. Fetus have the DNA like us that puts us under the cat. of humans. Like if you see a fetus within a cheetah. You know that's a cheetah.
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Riza-Izumi Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2013
Fetuses are nothing but parasites. Our hair and nails have DNA in them too, does that mean we commit murder when we cut them? 
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Ninja-Robot Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2013
Wow. And people wonder why the pro-choice movement is off-putting.
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Riza-Izumi Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2013
This is coming from a pro-lifer who thinks a fetus is a baby and is more important than an actual human. 
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Ninja-Robot Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2013
Same importance, still human, that's not the issue.

There's no right or wrong here, just individual opinion.

And for the record, no, I'm pro-choice, I'm just against abortion on a moral level, but Hell am I against someone having one if they so choose to.

What I am against, are despicable people like you, sucking all the humanity out of this argument by calling foetuses "parasites".
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nightmare1234567890 Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2013   Digital Artist
where did i state that i support pro-life? I explained why fetus can't be parasite. Parasite are living animals. Fetus are living cells. Cells can't be parasites because cells aren't animals or insects.
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PHDScienceFan Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2013
Technically humans breed more humans and not aliens from outer space or cows or chickens. Humans give birth to humans. I believe you're only toying with nouns to make a valid argument. It's a Human fetus period.
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Buzzy-Queen-Bee Featured By Owner May 13, 2013
OMBB BUT IT WILL BECOME A CHILD AND WHAT IF THEY DONT MIND IF THEYRE A BIT IDIOTIC!!!!!!!!!!
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PhantomHoofbeats Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012
Whoa, weird. I thought this was a statement insulting the pro-choice movement. Silly me. It really did fool me. You were actually serious!
Curious.
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SuperFlandreBros Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
LAWL! So much butthurt below!!:XD:
The carnage from this is sure entertaining!
Keep on arguing, it's so entertaining!!:D
Mmm, popcorn! :popcorn:
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Well, if we want to get technical, saying that kids are human and fetuses aren't isn't %100 true. They're BOTH human(I mean, it's at least a human fetus, it won't grow up to be a cow :P), one is just more developed than the other.
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*100%
Got the percentage sign in the wrong place WTF? OTZ
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DaughterRootless Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
i'm pro choice too... but that's taking it a bit far. compassion for human life is NOT a crime.
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Kotego Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2012  Hobbyist
You'd think anti-choicers would concern themselves over the kids that are actually here over a clump of insentient cells.
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Ask-War Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2012  Professional Artist
It's pathetic.
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triadenforcer Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2013
They need trophies, To promote themselves.

They only want fame.
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FlacidPenis Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2012  Professional
The butthurt amuses me.
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kitsumekat Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2012
$5 say they really don't give a shit about the kid in the first place.
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Ask-War Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2012  Professional Artist
I'll put in another $5.
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kitsumekat Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2012
You might win this one.
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